tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post4182648790419853988..comments2008-03-21T19:51:08.432-07:00Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10717622168200846486noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-74025953926272297102008-03-21T19:51:00.000-07:002008-03-21T19:51:00.000-07:00You're absolutely right about our abuses of language, Ella. "surrogate mother" is a monstrous formation, rivalling "assisted suicide" in its radical incoherence. No wonder it's so difficult to talk sensibly about compicated issues.Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10717622168200846486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-4830625876105846212008-03-21T18:32:00.000-07:002008-03-21T18:32:00.000-07:00And they never ask the baby later how it felt about it! Isn't that ironic? The real mother is the surrogate one, and the surrogate mother the real one. Shows you how we corrupt definitions.<BR/><BR/>Ella<BR/>*who came from a turning cradleElla Wagemakershttp://ellawagemakers.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-5482841097522898182008-03-19T18:24:00.000-07:002008-03-19T18:24:00.000-07:00"sorrowgate." Good thought, floots.<BR/><BR/>In the US, tikkis "delivery" is one way of saying birth. But it also means getting a package to a consumer. "supplied" is a good thought, too.Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10717622168200846486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-67384816053792670372008-03-19T03:22:00.000-07:002008-03-19T03:22:00.000-07:00supplied? <BR/><BR/>To continue Gillena: handed over sounds bad for me, and to deliver is slightly sterile? But in this case 'delivering' is in right place also?Tikkishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16405806987636579199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-81932725997970095392008-03-14T09:00:00.000-07:002008-03-14T09:00:00.000-07:00i agree with you as andrew said<BR/>i also began thinking about the word surrogate<BR/>sorrowgate sounds like a fictional london borough in a dickens novel<BR/>(maybe i should go now and chop some wood) :)flootshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01530734765701940680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-50336731699903509842008-03-13T20:41:00.000-07:002008-03-13T20:41:00.000-07:00Thanks, T. Which type of poetry do you mean--haiku/senryu in general or, more specifically, this kind of topical verse?<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the input, andrew.<BR/><BR/>Sensitive reading, gillena.<BR/><BR/>And a good thought, magyar.Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10717622168200846486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-21268246453857903702008-03-13T07:52:00.000-07:002008-03-13T07:52:00.000-07:00...and I wonder, Bill. "Does the proxy ever wonder?" _mMagyarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14834296565844877410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-3152009859344750672008-03-12T19:04:00.000-07:002008-03-12T19:04:00.000-07:00i think the use of 'handed over' adds a serious note of commerce in the situation of surrogates, while delivers pivots and softens the issue involved<BR/>both poems gives snapshots into credible present day human issues.<BR/><BR/><BR/>much love<BR/>gillenaGillena Coxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09191865405561549074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-9874795553629107902008-03-12T06:15:00.000-07:002008-03-12T06:15:00.000-07:00I agree, Bill. Both are nice, though.J. Andrew Lockharthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12567156257114496618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-55153861145905978272008-03-11T20:40:00.000-07:002008-03-11T20:40:00.000-07:00I have to admit I have little experience with this type of poetry. But I do enjoy it, as I did this one. With each new one that is written and I read, I learn. Thank you for that.<BR/><BR/>TInside our hands, outside our heartshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04135186996993725893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-68825568505610872352008-03-11T18:35:00.000-07:002008-03-11T18:35:00.000-07:00Thanks, John and polona. I'm posting a slightly altered version that occurred to me later today.Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10717622168200846486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-21446928889202620492008-03-11T12:36:00.000-07:002008-03-11T12:36:00.000-07:00but never the same again...<BR/>poignantpolonahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12631341810150848122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945445.post-36331768628039776552008-03-11T07:56:00.000-07:002008-03-11T07:56:00.000-07:00what a thought! well noted bill<BR/>johnJohn McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306609410526737715noreply@blogger.com